Check out this story. ...So much for our "all-volunteer" army. What's next?
And for perspective...
U.S. involvement in WW2 lasted from Pearl Harbor (12-7-41) to VJ day (8-15-45). That's 3 years, 8 months, and 1 week. That means, as of November 28th, 2006, it will have taken U.S. forces longer to achieve their objectives in Iraq than to defeat simultaneously both the Third Reich and the Japanese Empire.
Given that yesterday, Pres Bush vowed that U.S. forces will not leave Iraq during his Presidency, that means January 2009 at the earliest (making a complete withdrawal unlikely before the war's sixth anniversary, March 20, 2009). And with the forced redeployments, lengthened troop rotations, and level of fatigue...is a draft that unrealistic?
Have the lessons of Viet Nam been lost in their entirety?
Well, W is not taking my little brother. Not if I can help it.
My grandfather was career military, but discouraged his children and grandchildren from entering the military, in part because of Viet Nam. (He was fortunate to not have to serve in Viet Nam, after serving in both WWII and two tours in Korea. He told my grandmother later that he knew he would have died in Nam, had he been sent.)
And, somehow, even with this involuntary recall, most of these folks will vote Republican in the next election. WTF?
Oh - glad you're feeling better, btw. Your ER experience and the stuff leading up to it sounded scary.
Posted by: KelliAmanda | August 23, 2006 at 08:57 AM
Oh, yeah. Nick told me we were very likely to have a draft for this fucking mess over there, and that was at least a year ago if not longer.
The only positive outcome of this new news is that hopefully it will wake up more of the sheep who continue to vote for these cockslaps against their own economic, social, and now family interests.
Posted by: Catherine | August 23, 2006 at 10:39 AM
Ack. What a stubborn dickhead our president is.
Posted by: Cecily | August 23, 2006 at 12:08 PM
It really sucks for the military these days. But I firmly believe (as do the pundits I read) that an actual civilian draft will not happen. More likely is just a lot more recycling.
Posted by: Julie O | August 23, 2006 at 02:08 PM
please everyone see "fog of war" amazing documentary about Robert McNamara and the things he learned about war in both WW2 and Vietnam which her basically ran. GOD FORBID WE SHOULD EVER LEARN ANYTHING FROM EXPERIENCE!!! I could go into the experience of The Greek, Roman and British empires in the middle east...but hell why should I know one cares that the exact same things happened to them...ugh
Posted by: P's Dad | August 23, 2006 at 09:20 PM
The article clearly states that the Marines subject to recall have only fulfilled 4 of the 8 years they signed on for. It's no different than a soldier from the National Guard being called up to duty.
Posted by: Kate | August 24, 2006 at 01:56 AM
Kate -
Perhaps so... but this was a war that in 2003 the Administration promised would last only weeks. Yet here we are, 3 and a half years later.
My point is that this has all the hallmarks of a quagmire.
Posted by: Charlie | August 24, 2006 at 09:54 AM
I will be so glad when this administration is gone. I won't be sorry to see George, Dick and Rummy leave.
Posted by: Melissa in TN | August 26, 2006 at 09:18 AM
Ugh, when you put it that way, moving to Canada sounds more and more appealing.
Posted by: Elise | August 27, 2006 at 07:55 AM
I have two boys (6, and 11 months, with a girlchild in-between). It is my belief that this nation will be at war from now until the end of this world, and that my boys will be required to serve in the armed forces as young adults. I love my country, and would be proud if any of my children chose to be in the armed forces. But I would hate for them to be forced to serve.
Posted by: Cyl | August 29, 2006 at 12:24 PM
"not during my presidency"... heh... if Congress goes Democratic this November and impeachment proceedings move forward, maybe it WILL be sooner than January 2009.
If this damn war is still going on in April 2020 (a month before my son's 18th birthday), my family and I WILL be emigrating....
Posted by: Anna | August 29, 2006 at 04:49 PM